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Bava Basra 15
BAVA BASRA 14 & 15 - anonymously dedicated by an Ohev Torah and Marbitz
Torah in Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel.
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1) WHO WROTE THE SEFORIM
(a) Question: Who wrote Torah, the prophets and Kesuvim?
(b) Answer: Moshe wrote the Torah, including the Parshah of
Bilam, and Sefer Iyov;
1. Yehoshua wrote Sefer Yehoshua and the last eight
verses of the Torah;
2. Shmuel wrote Sefer Shmuel, Shoftim and Rus;
3. David and ten other Chachamim wrote Tehilim: Adam,
Malki Tzedek (Shem), Avraham, Moshe, Heiman,
Yedusun, Asaf, and Korach's three sons.
4. Yirmeyah wrote Sefer Yirmeyah, Melachim and Eichah;
5. Chizkiyah and his contemporaries wrote Yeshayah,
Mishlei, Shir ha'Shirim and Koheles;
6. The men of the Great Assembly wrote Yechezkeil, the
12, Daniel and Megilas Esther;
7. Ezra wrote Sefer Ezra, and the lineage at the
beginning of Divrei ha'Yamim until himself (Rashi;
Tosfos - until the verse "V'Lo Achim Benei
Yehoshafat");
i. This supports Rav, who said that Ezra did not
leave Bavel until he established his own
lineage.
8. Question: Who finished Divrei ha'Yamim?
9. Answer: Nechemyah.
(c) (Beraisa): Yehoshua wrote Sefer Yehoshua and the last
eight verses of the Torah.
(d) Tana'im argue whether Moshe or Yehoshua wrote the last
eight verses.
1. (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): "Va'Yamas Sham Moshe" -
Moshe could not have written this!
i. Rather, Moshe wrote until here, Yehoshua wrote
the rest.
2. R. Nechemyah: R. Shimon objected - we cannot say
that Moshe did not finish the Torah - "Lako'ach Es
Sefer ha'Torah ha'Zeh"!
i. Rather, until here, Hash-m dictated the Torah
and Moshe wrote;
ii. These last eight verses, Hash-m dictated and
Moshe wrote b'Dema (with tears; some say, he
wrote the letters unarranged).
iii. We find that Hash-m dictated to other prophets
- "Yikra Elai...va'Ani Kosev".
(e) Question: As whom is the following teaching?
1. (R. Yehoshua bar Aba): One person reads the last
eight verses (i.e. we do not split the reading among
two people).
2. Suggestion: It is not R. Shimon - he holds that
Moshe wrote them, they are the same as the rest of
the Torah!
(f) Answer: No, it is even as R. Shimon;
1. He admits that Moshe wrote them differently,
therefore they have a special status.
(g) Question: How can we say that Yehoshua wrote Sefer
Yehoshua - it says, "Va'Yamas Yehoshua"!
(h) Answer: Elazar finished it.
(i) Question: But it says, "V'Elazar ben Aharon Mes"!
(j) Answer: Pinchas finished it.
(k) Question: How can we say that Shmuel wrote Sefer Shmuel -
it says, "U'Shmuel Mes"!
(l) Answer: Gad and Nasan finished it.
(m) (Beraisa): David and ten other Chachamim wrote Tehilim.
(n) Question: We should also include Eisan ha'Ezrachi (the
author of Tehilim 89)!
(o) Answer: That is Avraham - "Mi He'ir mi'Mizrach".
(p) Question: The Beraisa counts Moshe and Heiman - but Rav
said that Heiman is Moshe - "B'Chol Beisi Ne'eman Hu"!
(q) Answer: Moshe is Heiman, but Heiman ha'Ezrachi (the
author of Tehilim 88) is someone else.
2) WHEN DID IYOV LIVE?
(a) (Beraisa): Moshe wrote the Torah, including the Parshah
of Bilam, and Sefer Iyov.
(b) This supports Rav Levi bar Lachma.
1. (Rav Levi bar Lachma): Iyov lived in Moshe's day -
it says "Mi Yiten Efo", similar to what Moshe said,
"Uba'Meh Yivada Efo".
2. Question: Why not say that he lived in the time of
Yitzchak ("Mi Efo") or Yakov ("Efo Zos Asu") or
Yosef ("Eifo Hem Ro'im")?!
3. Answer: It also says in Iyov, "...V'Yuchaku" - Moshe
is called Mechokek.
(c) (Rava): Iyov was in the days of the spies - it says
"B'Eretz Utz", similar to "Ha'Yesh Bah Etz".
(d) Objection: 'Utz' and 'Etz' are different!
(e) Answer: Moshe asked the spies to see if the one (Iyov)
whose years are great as a tree and protects his
generation as a tree is still alive.
(f) (A Chacham): Iyov never lived, Sefer Iyov is only a
parable.
(g) Rejection (Rav Shmuel bar Nachmani): "Ish Hayah" - he did
live!
1. Question: But "Kivsah Achas...va'Ychayeha" was only
a parable!
2. Answer: If Iyov was only a parable, it would not
give his name and his city's name.
(h) (R. Yochanan and R. Elazar): Iyov returned with the
exiles from Bavel, his Beis Medrash was in Tiverya.
(i) Question (Beraisa): Iyov lived from when Yisrael
descended to Miztrayim until they left.
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(j) Answer: It means, Iyov lived as long as the time from
when Yisrael descended to Miztrayim until they left (210
years).
(k) Question (Beraisa): Seven prophets from other nations
prophesized: Bilam and his father, Iyov, Elifaz
ha'Temani, Bildad ha'Shuchi, Tzufar ha'Na'amasi, and
Elihu ben Barach'el (this shows, Iyov was not a Yisrael)!
1. Counter-question: If so, Elihu ben Barach'el also
was not a Yisrael - but it says, he was from the
family of Ram (i.e. Avraham; alternatively - the
verse would not give the lineage of a Nochri)!
(l) Answer (to both questions): Rather, the Beraisa lists
seven prophets that prophesized to the other nations.
(m) Question: All the prophets prophesized for all the
nations!
(n) Answer: Regarding these seven, their prophecies were
primarily for the other nations.
(o) Question (Beraisa): There was a Chasid of the other
nations; he only came to the world to get his reward;
1. Hash-m brought punishments upon him; he blasphemed,
so Hash-m doubled his reward in this world to
deprive him of his reward in the world to come.
(p) Answer: Tana'im argue whether or not he was a Yisrael.
1. (Beraisa - R. Eliezer): Iyov was in the days of the
Shoftim;
i. It says "Hevel Tehavlu" - this is the
generation which judged its judges.
2. R. Yehoshua ben Korchah says, he was in the days of
Achashverosh - "V'Lo Nimzta Nashim Yafos..b'Chol
ha'Aretz";
i. In Achashverosh's day they sought the most
beautiful women.
ii. Question: They also did in David's day!
iii. Answer: Then, they only searched in Eretz
Yisrael, not in the whole world.
3. R. Noson says, he was in the days of Malkas Sheva -
"Va'Tipol Sheva".
4. Chachamim say, he was in the days of Kasdim
(Babylonians, i.e. Nebuchadnetzar) -
"Kasdim...Hiku..."
5. Some say, he was in the days of Yakov, and married
Dinah;
i. It says "K'Daber Achas ha'Nevalos", similar to
"Nevalah Asah b'Yisrael" said regarding Dinah.
6. All the opinions except the last must hold that Iyov
was a Yisrael, since they say that he lived after
Moshe;
i. Moshe requested that Hash-m not give prophecy
to Nochrim, and Hash-m agreed -
"V'Niflinu...mi'Kol ha'Am".
(q) (R. Yochanan): The generation of Iyov were steeped in
lewdness;
1. It says "Kulechem Chazisem", similar to "V'Nechezeh
Bach" (looking at a woman).
2. Suggestion: Perhaps it means to see prophetically -
"Chazon Yeshayahu"!
3. Rejection: (The verse continues) "Hevel Tehbalu".
(r) (R. Yochanan): "Bi'Mei Shefot ha'Shoftim" - a generation
which judged its judges;
1. If a judge would rebuke someone for a small
transgression, the person would rebuke the judge for
a great transgression.
(s) (Rav Shmuel bar Nachmani): Malkas Sheva was not a woman,
rather it is the kingdom of Sheva.
3) THE GREATNESS OF IYOV
(a) "Va'Ya'an ha'Satan" - the Satan told Hash-m that he did
not see anyone in the world as faithful as Avraham;
1. Even though Hash-m told Avraham that he will give
him Eretz Yisrael, and Avraham could not find a
burial place for Sarah until he paid 400 Shekalim,
he did not resent this.
(b) Hash-m told the Satan to consider Iyov.
(c) (R. Yochanan): The verse praises Iyov more than Avraham!
1. Regarding Avraham it says "Yerei Elokim"; regarding
Iyov it says "Ish Tam v'Yashar Yerei Elokim v'Sar
me'Ra";
2. Question: What does it mean "v'Sar me'Ra"?
3. Answer (R. Aba bar Shmuel): He was easygoing with
his money;
i. Normally, if a person owes someone half a
Perutah (the smallest coin is a Perutah), he
buys something for a Perutah and shares it with
him; Iyov would give the full Perutah.
(d) Question: "The Satan answered...Ma'ase Yadav Berachta" -
what does this mean?
(e) Answer (Rav Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak): Anyone who received
a Perutah from Iyov was blessed.
(f) Question: What does it mean "U'Miknehu Paratz ba'Aretz"?
(g) Answer (R. Yosi b'Rebbi Chanina): Iyov's flock
overstepped nature;
1. Normally, wolves kill goats; Iyov's flock killed
wolves.
(h) The Satan thought that if Iyov's prosperity ceased, he
would blaspheme; Hash-m authorized the Satan to do as he
wishes to it.
(i) Question: "The cattle were plowing and the donkeys were
grazing Al Yedeihem" - what does this mean?
(j) Answer (R. Yochanan): (The fodder grew instantly,) Hash-m
gave Iyov a taste of the world to come.
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