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Bava Basra, 49
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1) BELIEVING WITNESSES WHO WANT TO INVALIDATE A "SHTAR" THAT THEY SIGNED
QUESTION: Rav Nachman rules that when two witnesses who signed a Shtar
testify later that the Shtar was a Shtar Amanah (that is, there was not
really a loan), they are not believed. Similarly, when two witnesses who
signed a Shtar testify later that, before they signed the Shtar, the seller
declared a Moda'a in their presence, saying that the transaction was done
under coercion, they are not believed. Mar bar Rav Ashi argues and says that
when they testify that there was a Moda'a, they are believed.
The RASHBAM (DH Ein Ne'emanim) writes that when the Gemara says that the
witnesses are not believed to say that the Shtar they signed is a Shtar
Amanah, this applies not only when the Shtar is Mekuyam, but it applies even
when the Shtar is not yet Mekuyam. The witnesses are still not believed to
say that the Shtar was an Amanah, because of the principle of "Keivan
she'Higid Eino Chozer u'Magid" -- once they have given testimony, they
cannot change that testimony. Their signatures on the Shtar is considered to
be their original testimony which cannot be altered afterwards. The Rashbam
proves this from the Gemara in Kesuvos (18b). How, though, can the Rashbam
prove this from the Gemara there? The Gemara there is discussing a Shtar
that is *Mekuyam*. If the Shtar is *not* Mekuyam, then the witnesses *are*
believed to say that the Shtar is not valid, because the validity of the
Shtar itself is based on their testimony and thus they are believed because
of the principle of "Peh she'Asar Hu ha'Peh she'Hitir," as the Rashbam
himself mentions later! (RASHASH)
ANSWERS:
(a) The RASHASH explains that the Rashbam is not proving from the Gemara
that "Keivan she'Higid" applies when the Shtar is not Mekuyam. Rather, he is
proving only that "Keivan she'Higid" applies to testimony that is written in
a Shtar.
Why, though, does the Rashbam write that witnesses cannot say that the Shtar
is an Amanah even if the Shtar is not Mekuyam, if the Gemara in Kesuvos says
that they have a "Peh she'Asur?" The answer is that the Gemara there only
gives credibility to the witnesses because of "Peh she'Asar" when they are
not diametrically contradicting what is written in the Shtar. When the
witnesses say that the Shtar was an Amanah, they are contradicting what is
written in the Shtar, and therefore they are not believed (see TOSFOS DH
Amar Rav Nachman).
(b) However, the Rashbam does not seem to be saying this. In a few places,
his words imply that when the Shtar is not Mekuyam, the witnesses *are*
believed through "Peh she'Asur," and their second testimony is not invalid
because of "Keivan she'Higid" (see Rashbam DH u'Mar bar Rav Ashi, and DH
Moda'a Hayah Devareinu, where he writes that there is no "Peh she'Asur"
because we know that the Shtar is valid because the lender and borrower both
agree that it is valid). In addition, Tosfos suggests this logic only to
explain why "Peh she'Asur" does not apply according to his own view that Rav
Nachman is discussing a Shtar that is not Mekuyam.
Therefore, it seems that when the Rashbam writes that the reason the
witnesses are not believed is because of "Keivan she'Higid," he is referring
back to the case of a Shtar that *is* Mekuyam. Only later does he give the
reason for why the witnesses are not believed when the Shtar is *not*
Mekuyam, when he writes that the witnesses cannot give testimony that will
incriminate themselves.
2) RELINQUISHING ONE'S RIGHTS TO RECEIVE A BENEFIT
QUESTION: The Gemara explains that the husband can relinquish his rights to
the fields of his wife only by writing as such to her ("Din u'Devarim Ein
Li...") when she is still an Arusah. After they are married, it is too late
for him to relinquish his rights, because the fields already belong to the
husband with regard to their Peros, and it does not suffice to forego his
rights to the field; he must make a normal Kinyan and give the fields away.
(See Kesuvos 43a, "Yado k'Yadah.")
Why does the Gemara not explain that the husband relinquishes his rights to
the Nichsei Melug *after* they get married, but before his wife inherits
property from her relatives? Since that property was not yet in the
possession of the husband, he should be able to forego his rights so that
the property will not become his when his wife inherits it!
ANSWERS:
(a) The ALIYOS D'RABEINU YONAH explains that the husband, after Nisu'in,
indeed may forego his rights so that he does not receive property that his
wife inherits later. The Gemara could have suggested that case. When it says
instead that the husband can forego his wife's property only when she is an
Arusah, it is mentioning the only way that he can forego his rights to his
wife's property (Nichsei Melug) which she owns at the time that they get
married.
(b) The Yerushalmi in Kesuvos (9:1) cited by the ROSH (Kesuvos 9:1) implies
that the husband cannot forego his rights to property that his wife does not
yet own, even when he writes "Din u'Devarim Ein Li" when she is still an
Arusah. The reason for this is because the property is considered "Davar
she'Lo Ba l'Olam," and therefore the husband is not able to give it away. He
can only give away property that his Arusah already owns.
(c) The RASHBAM (DH Ein l'Ish), however, writes that the Halachos of our
Gemara refer even to property that a woman inherits while she is married.
The Rashbam might have had a different answer for why the Gemara does not
suggest that the husband writes "Din u'Devarim" to relinquish his rights to
that property after the Nisu'in. The Rashbam (49b, DH k'd'Rav Huna) explains
that the husband has a reason for why he wants to relinquish his rights to
the Peros of his wife's property. That reason is in order to exempt himself
from his obligation to redeem his wife in the event that she is taken
captive. TOSFOS (49b, DH Yecholah) points out that the Takanas Chachamim
requiring the husband to redeem his wife was that the husband eats the
fruits throughout the entire Nisu'in on the condition that he is obligated
to redeem his wife. The fruit is not granted to him on a daily basis on
condition that he accept upon himself the obligation to redeem his wife on
that day. Hence, after the husband eats the fruits for just one day, he may
no longer exempt himself from the obligation to redeem his wife by not
taking any more Peros, because the Peros that he already took obligate him
to redeem his wife for as long as they are married.
This might be why the Gemara wants to explain that the husband was ready to
forego his rights to the fruit before the Nisu'in. (M. Kornfeld)
(d) TOSFOS and other Rishonim argue with the Rashbam and maintain that the
husband is obligated to redeem his wife even if he does forego his rights to
the Peros. The two Halachos are not interdependent.
The RAMBAN and RASHBA in Kesuvos (83a) give another reason why the husband
cannot relinquish his rights to the property that his wife will inherit
after the Nisu'in. They explain that the reason why Rav Kahana allows a
person to relinquish his rights only from an inheritance that one receives
through marriage and from not an inheritance d'Oraisa that one receives from
his father is because the rights that a person has to an inheritance from
his father are his from the time that he is born. Since he already has those
rights, he cannot relinquish them (through "Siluk;" on the other hand, he
cannot give the property away through a Kinyan since it is not yet his). The
rights that a person gets through marriage are not his until the marriage,
and thus before the marriage he can relinquish them such that he will not
receive them.
According to this approach, it is clear that after they are married, a
husband cannot give away his rights to property that his wife did not yet
inherit, since the rights to inherit the property are already his, even
though the property is not yet his. According to these Rishonim, there is no
difference between rights that the Torah gives to a person and rights that
the Chachamim give to a person. The reason the Gemara mentions the Halachah
of Rava -- that a person can forego his rights to receive something through
a Takanas Chachamim -- is to show that rights that are given by the
Chachamim are not *stronger* than rights given by the Torah (for we might
have thought that "Rabanan Asu Chizuk l'Divreihen"). The ROSH in Kesuvos
explains that this is also the intention of the Yerushalmi.
The logic of the Ramban and Rashba, that a person cannot forego rights that
are already his, will not apply according to the Rashbam and Tosfos. They
explain that the reason why a person can forego a Takanas Chachamim to his
benefit is not because the Takanas Chachamim has not yet taken effect, but,
rather, since the Takanas Chachamim was made for his benefit, he is entitled
to forego the benefit. According to that reasoning, the same should apply
even *after* the Takanah takes effect (for example, after the Nisu'in); the
husband should still be able to forego his rights to receive the Peros by
saying that he does not want to take advantage of the benefit that the
Chachamim gave him. Therefore, the Rashbam must answer our question with one
of the other answers mentioned above.
49b
1) A WOMAN WHO SELLS HER FIELD IN ORDER TO PLEASE HER HUSBAND
QUESTION: The Gemara teaches that when a married woman sells her field to a
buyer after her husband has sold that field to the buyer, the sale is not
valid, because she can claim that she sold the field only in order "to
please my husband" ("Nachas Ru'ach Asisi l'Va'ali") and she did not really
intend for the sale to be effective. The RASHBAM asks why should this case
not be considered a case of one who is forced to sell a field (in this case,
the coercion, "Ones," being the need to please her husband), in which case
the sale is valid, as the Gemara teaches earlier (47b)? The Rashbam answers
that when a woman sells her field under pressure to please her husband, that
is not considered such a significant form of coercion.
What does the Rashbam mean? If there is not a significant degree of
coercion, then certainly her sale should be valid! If she indeed is
considered to have been forced to sell the field, then the sale should be
valid because she had full resolve in her mind to sell the field due to the
coercion! (RAMBAN)
ANSWERS:
(a) The RAMBAN and other Rishonim argue with the Rashbam and explain that
when the buyer who purchases the field from the woman pays her the full
value of the field (that is, what it is worth to her), the sale is certainly
valid. The only time that the sale is not valid is when he pays her less
than the field's value, in which case she is able to claim that she sold the
field only in order to please her husband.
(b) The AVNEI MILU'IM (90:27) explains that since the woman's goal is to
please her husband, in order to accomplish that she only needs to sell the
field to the buyer while her husband is alive. Such a sale is enough to
please her husband. Her husband will not be upset if the sale is done in
such a way that the field will revert back to her ownership after he dies.
(We might ask, though,what relevance, though, does her sale have if it is
effective only until her husband dies? Whether or not she sells the actual
land to the buyer, the buyer is only able to eat the Peros of the field
until the husband dies! The answer is that when she sells him the land until
her husband dies, he is entitled to dig wells and pits, and construct
buildings, on the land, in addition to eating the Peros.) That the "Nachas
Ru'ach" that the wife wants to do for her husband applies only during his
lifetime is implied by the RA'AVAD (Hilchos Ishus 22:18). Therefore, even if
she does sell the field, with full resolve, in order to please her husband,
nevertheless the sale will not be effective after her husband's death,
because she did not intend to sell the field for after her husband dies.
(c) The Rashbam, though, does not seem to follow these approaches. Perhaps
the Rashbam learns that the rule that a forced sale is valid applies only
when the seller is intimidated or humbled into selling his property by
somebody else. In such a situation, he agrees to the terms of the one
forcing him to sell. In our case, the woman decides *on her own* that there
is a need to please her husband and to show her consent to the sale, even
though she does not actually want to sell the field. Therefore, since she is
not humbling herself to the will of somebody else, she does not resolve in
her mind to sell the field. Nevertheless, her sale is still called an "Ones"
because she is forced to pretend that she is selling it.
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