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Bava Basra, 28
BAVA BASRA 27 & 28 - these Dafim have been dedicated anonymously l'Iluy
Nishmas Tzirel Nechamah bas Tuvya Yehudah.
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1) HARVESTING THREE CROPS IN A SINGLE YEAR
QUESTION: The Mishnah teaches that the Chazakah of a "Beis ha'Shalchin" is a
full three years ("Shalosh Shanim mi'Yom l'Yom"), as opposed to the Chazakah
of a "Beis ha'Ba'al." RASHI teaches that since a Beis ha'Shalchin comes with
its own water source, it produces fruits constantly throughout the year, and
not just one crop during one part of the year. Therefore, in order to make a
Chazakah on the field, the Machzik must be there using the field for three
full years.
The Gemara (end of 28b) teaches that according to Rebbi Yishmael, a person
can make a Chazakah by reaping three crops in a single year, such as by
planting and harvesting Aspasta in one month, and repeating that for the
next two months. If a Beis ha'Shalchin is constantly producing crops one
after the other, then Rebbi Yishmael should rule that a person can make a
Chazakah on a Beis ha'Shalchin in one year or less! What is the difference
between a Beis ha'Shalchin and Aspasta? (RASHBA)
ANSWERS:
(a) The RASHBA (28b) and ALIYOS D'RABEINU YONAH answer that since the Beis
ha'Shalchin is constantly producing fruit without interruption, an entire
year's harvest is usually taken by the same person and it is not divided up
into small sections. Therefore, a Chazakah can only be made by using the
field for the entire year, and the year's produce is all considered to be
one large crop.
The RASHBA questions this, however, from the Gemara (28b) which says that
harvesting the three different parts of the Tzelach, or harvesting three
figs in three days, would be considered a Chazakah if not for the fact that
the fruit which is harvested later already exists in a premature,
underdeveloped form at the time that the first crop is harvested. Since the
fruit planted at the end of the year in a Beis ha'Shalchin was obviously not
in existence at all at the beginning of the year when the previous crop was
harvested, why should it not be considered a separate crop with regard to
Chazakah?
Perhaps the answer is that when the Gemara says that the figs which were
harvested later were already there during the first harvest but were not yet
mature, it does not mean that the last fig was on the tree at the time that
the first fig was harvested. Rather, the Gemara means that the last fig is
considered an extension of the crop which bore the first fig, since there
was no harvest between them to divide up the crop into two. The Gemara
itself, then, is saying the logic of the Rashba. (M. Kornfeld)
(b) The GILYON TOSFOS cited by the Shitah Mekubetzes explains that the Beis
ha'Shalchin does not produce more than one crop of fruit during one season.
However, the field is *worked* throughout the year, and that is why the
Chazakah is a full three years, mi'Yom l'Yom.
28b
2) HALACHAH: LEARNING THE LAWS OF "CHAZAKAH" FROM THE LAWS OF "SHOR
HA'MU'AD"
QUESTION: The Gemara suggests that the source for the Halachah of "Chezkas
Shalom Shanim," the Chazakah of three years, is the Halachah of Shor
ha'Mu'ad. Just as an ox becomes a Mu'ad only after it gores on three
separate days, so, too, a person's use of a field can prove that he is the
owner of the field only if he uses it for three years. The Gemara asks why
three years are necessary to make a Chazakah, according to Rebbi Meir who
says that a Shor can become a Shor ha'Mu'ad even by goring three times on
one day. Rebbi Meir maintains that if three gorings on three separate days
can prove that the Shor is a Mu'ad, then all the more so three gorings on a
single day proves that it is accustomed to goring and that it must be a
Mu'ad. The Gemara says that, indeed, according to Rebbi Meir, if one
collects three separate harvests of fruit in the same year, it will be a
Chazakah.
The Poskim (OC 114:9) derive from Rebbi Meir's ruling a practical Halachah
with regard to the laws of Shemoneh Esreh. We know that a person who is
unsure whether or not he said "Morid ha'Geshem" in the summertime, when he
was not supposed to say it, must repeat Shemoneh Esreh during the first
thirty days after the beginning of Pesach and assume that his tongue said
what it is accustomed to saying (which, until now, was "Morid ha'Geshem").
The MAHARAM MI'ROTENBURG proposes that there is a way to accustom one's
tongue to saying the appropriate words even before thirty days have passed.
By repeating the appropriate phrase of Shemoneh Esreh ninety times, his
tongue will become accustomed to saying that phrase based on the logic of
Rebbi Meir -- events that occur in proximity affect a person's habits more
than events that are separated by time.
How can the Maharam base his ruling on Rebbi Meir's teaching? The Halachah
follows the view of Rebbi Yehudah, who maintains that a Shor only becomes a
Mu'ad when it gores on three separate days! This implies that events that
occur in close proximity do not habituate a person more than events that do
not occur with such proximity! (DERISHAH, MAGEN AVRAHAM in the name of the
SHLAH, TAZ)
ANSWERS:
(a) The MAGEN AVRAHAM suggests that Rebbi Yehudah may be arguing with Rebbi
Meir only because of a verse that seems to counter Rebbi Meir's view. The
verse (Vayikra 15:25) teaches with regard to a Zavah that a woman becomes a
Zavah after seeing blood on three consecutive days, but not after seeing
blood three times on one day. Perhaps with regard to Shemoneh Esreh, that
Gezeiras ha'Kasuv will not apply.
However, the Magen Avraham refutes this. If Rebbi Yehudah learns the
Halachos of Shor ha'Mu'ad from Zavah, then why should he not learning all
Halachos from Zavah?
The DERISHAH and NODA B'YEHUDAH (Mahadura Kama OC 26) answer that Rebbi
Yehudah only applies the principle of learned from Zavah (i.e. that three
events are needed to establish the new status) to where an Isur or Tum'ah is
involved. The laws of Shemoneh Esreh involve no Isur or Tum'ah, but rather
there is simply a question of what a person becomes accustomed to saying,
and it is not learned from a verse describing a Halachah related to Isur or
Tum'ah.
Why, then, does our Gemara say that a Chazakah should work if a person makes
three harvests in one year, according to Rebbi Meir? The same should be true
according to Rebbi Yehudah, since this is not dependent on a verse but on
the nature of a person! The Derishah writes that our Gemara mentions Rebbi
Meir only because he is the one who states explicitly that events that are
close in proximity have more of an effect than events that take place at
larger internals of time. The Halachah, though, should be true according to
Rebbi Yehudah as well since they both agree on this point. (This might
explain why the Gemara rejects Shor ha'Mu'ad as a source for "Chezkas
Shalosh Shanim" according to the Chachamim who argue with Rebbi Yishmael and
say that three harvests in one year are not a Chazakah. Why did the Gemara
not say that the Chachamim hold like Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Yishmael holds
like Rebbi Meir? According to the Derishah, Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah do
not argue on this point, and therefore a new source must be found for
"Chezkas Shalom Shanim" according to the Chachamim.)
However, the Derishah and Magen Avraham question this from the Gemara in
Ta'anis (21b) which quotes a Beraisa that says that if three people die in
three days in a small city, it is considered a dangerous plague, and the
residents of the city must fast. The Gemara relates that an Amora decreed a
day of fasting when three people died on one day. Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak
said that this must be like Rebbi Meir, who says that events that take place
at smaller intervals have more of an effect. If Rebbi Yehudah only argues
with Rebbi Meir regarding a law derived from a verse, then even he should
agree to this Halachah. It would be possible to suggest here, too, that the
Gemara quotes Rebbi Meir because he is the one who stated this principle
explicitly, and Rebbi Yehudah would agree to it in this case. However, the
RAMBAM (Hilchos Ta'aniyos 2:5) and the SHULCHAN ARUCH (OC 576:2) rule that
we do not proclaim a Ta'anis if three people die on one day, because the
Halachah follows Rebbi Yehudah. (See Derishah.)
(b) The MAGEN AVRAHAM suggests that Rebbi Yehudah argues only with Rebbi
Meir in the cases of a Shor ha'Mu'ad and a Zavah, since -- aside from the
factor of becoming accustomed to a certain type of action, other factors
might be involved. A Zavah might see Dam because of illness, and a Shor
ha'Mu'ad might gore because it was in a bad mood that day. The same would
apply with regard to a plague in a city, where other factors, such as the
weather on that day, might have affected people's health. In such cases, the
principle of Rebbi Meir would not apply. However, with regard to saying
"Morid ha'Geshem," which a person's mouth says by rote when he is not
thinking, and which would not be influenced by other factors, Rebbi Yehudah
would agree with Rebbi Meir's principle.
The VILNA GA'ON, however, does not accept the ruling of the Maharam, because
of the question of the Magen Avraham. The TUR cites RABEINU PERETZ who
argues with the Maharam for a different reason -- even if we accept Rebbi
Meir's principle, it might not be applicable to accustoming one's tongue to
pray in a certain way, since time is an important factor and has more of an
effect on accustoming a person to say something by rote.
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