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Avodah Zarah 32
AVODAH ZARAH 32 - dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Esther (bas Moshe) Farber of
Riverdale, NY, who passed away on 13 Shevat 5763, in honor of the Hakamas
Matzevah. A descendant of the Chasam Sofer, Esther was a courageous woman,
clinging strongly to her heritage despite personal tragedies, who affected
the lives of many students and friends.
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1) HADRIYANI EARTHENWARE
(a) (Mishnah): Hadriyani earthenware...
(b) Question: What is this?
(c) Answer (Rav Yehudah): Earthenware of Hadriyanus Keisar.
(d) (Rav Dimi): They grow vines in virgin soil (that was
never farmed), make wine from the grapes, soak
earthenware in the wine, and it absorbs the wine. They
break the vessels and take the shards; when they want
wine, they soak the shards in water, wine exudes.
1. (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): The third time they soak
them, the resulting wine is as good as our best
quality wine!
(e) Question: May one use these shards to support a bed?
1. May one use something which contains something
forbidden to benefit from, if he does not benefit
from the forbidden matter?
(f) Answer #1: R. Elazar and R. Yochanan argued about this,
one permitted, one forbade (the Halachah follows the one
who forbids - some delete this from the text).
(g) Question (against the one who permits - Beraisa #1):
Small flasks and leather pouches of Nochrim, and wine of
a Yisrael was put in them - one may not drink the wine,
it is permitted to benefit from them;
1. Shimon ben Guda testified in front of R. Gamliel's
son that R. Gamliel drank from it in Ako; they did
not agree to this.
2. R. Shimon ben Gamliel says (in the name of) R.
Yehoshua ben Kafosai that it is forbidden to make a
saddle out of pouches of Nochrim.
3. The Beraisa forbids using the pouch, even in a way
that he will not benefit from the wine!
4. {Counter-question: If so, the bottles should also be
forbidden! - Tosfos deletes this from the text.}
(h) Answer (Rava): It is a decree not to make a saddle out of
the pouches, lest a pouch (of the Yisrael) break and he
will tear off part of the saddle to patch it (and the
Nochri wine from the saddle will enter the Yisrael's
wine).
(i) Question: According to the opinion that it is forbidden
to benefit (even without benefiting from the forbidden
matter), why is Hadriyani earthenware forbidden, but
bottles are permitted?
(j) Answer: Regarding Hadriyani earthenware, the forbidden
wine is intact (through soaking, one gets proper wine);
wine absorbed in bottles cannot be recovered by itself
(it can only give taste to something).
(k) (Beraisa): They did not agree to this.
(l) Contradiction (Beraisa #2): Wine put in pouches of
Nochrim - one may not drink the wine, it is permitted to
benefit from them;
1. Shimon ben Gude'a testified in front of R. Gamliel's
son that R. Gamliel drank from it in Ako; they
agreed to this.
(m) Answer #1: (In Beraisa #1) all his colleagues did not
agree, but his son agreed.
(n) Answer #2: Shimon ben *Goda* is not Shimon ben *Gude'a* -
when the latter testified, they agreed.
2) HIDES WITH A HOLE
(a) (Mishnah): Hides with a hole near the heart.
(b) (Beraisa): A hide with a hole (like a window) near the
heart (from which the heart could be removed), and there
is a crust of blood, it is forbidden;
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1. If not, it is permitted.
(c) (Rav Huna): This is only if the hide was not salted;
1. If it was salted, it is forbidden, perhaps there was
a crust and the salt removed it.
(d) (Mishnah): R. Shimon ben Gamliel says, if the hole is
round it is forbidden, if it is long and narrow, it is
permitted.
(e) (Rav Yosef): The Halachah follows R. Shimon ben Gamliel.
1. Inference (Abaye): This implies that Chachamim argue
with him!
2. Rav Yosef: What difference does it make (in any
case, the Halachah follows R. Shimon)!
3. Abaye: Should we recite teachings (that are not
needed,) like a song?!
(f) (Mishnah - R. Akiva): Meat being taken to (where they
serve) idolatry is permitted.
(g) Question: As whom does R. Akiva hold?
(h) Answer (R. Chiya bar Aba): He argues with R. Eliezer, who
says that everything a Nochri does (Tosfos - slaughters)
is for the sake of idolatry.
(i) (Mishnah - R. Akiva): What is taken from it is forbidden,
for it is like something sacrificed to idolatry.
(j) Question: What is the reason?
(k) Answer: Surely, it was offered to idolatry; R. Akiva
holds like R. Yehudah ben Beseira.
1. (R. Yehudah ben Beseira): Something offered to
idolatry imparts Tuma to an Ohel - "...Va'Yochelu
Zivchei Mesim" - just as a corpse imparts Tuma to an
Ohel, also what is offered to idolatry.
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