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Zevachim 8
ZEVACHIM 8 - dedicated by Mrs. Rita Grunberger of Queens, N.Y., in loving
memory of her husband, Reb Yitzchok Yakov ben Eliyahu Grunberger. Irving
Grunberger helped many people quietly in an unassuming manner and is dearly
missed by all who knew him. His Yahrzeit is 10 Sivan.
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1) A "CHATAS" MUST BE OFFERED "LISHMAH"
(a) Question: What is the source that a Chatas must be
offered Lishmah?
(b) Answer: "V'Shachat Osah l'Chatas" - the slaughter must be
l'Shem Chatas.
(c) Question: This teaches about a Shinuy in slaughter - what
is the source for Shinuy in Kabalah?
(d) Answer: "V'Lakach ha'Kohen mi'Dam ha'Chatas" - it must be
received l'Shem Chatas.
(e) Question: What is the source for Zerikah?
(f) Answer: "V'Chiper Alav ha'Kohen mi'Chataso" - the
atonement must be l'Shem Chatas.
(g) Question: This teaches Shinuy Kodesh; what is the source
for Shinuy Ba'alim?
(h) Answer: "(He atones) Alav" - not for someone else.
2) A "CHATAS" OFFERED "SHE'LO LISHMAH" IS NOT VALID
(a) Question: This teaches that Shinuy Kodesh and Ba'alim are
forbidden - what is the source that they Posel a Chatas?
(b) Answer #1: We learn as Rav Huna brei d'Rav Yehoshua
learned.
1. (Rav Huna brei d'Rav Yehoshua): "Chatas*o* (his
Chatas)" - it must be l'Shem ha'Ba'alim.
(c) Question: We have learned that Shinuy Kodesh is forbidden
l'Chatchilah, and Shinuy Ba'alim in Zerikah disqualifies
a Chatas;
1. What is the source that Shinuy Kodesh disqualifies
in all Avodos, and that Shinuy Ba'alim is forbidden
and disqualifies in the Avodos other than Zerikah?
(d) Answer #1 - part 1 (R. Yonah): We learn from the Chatas
of a Nazir - "...V'Asah Es Chataso v'Es Olaso" - all the
Asiyos (of the Chatas) must be l'Shem Chatas.
(e) Question: This teaches about Shinuy Kodesh - what is the
source for Shinuy Ba'alim?
(f) Answer #1 - part 2 (Rav Huna brei d'Rav Yehoshua):
"Chatas*o*"- it must be l'Shem ha'Ba'alim.
(g) Objection #1 (Ravina): If we expound thusly, what will we
learn from "Olas*o*"?
1. Question: Ravina did not ask about "Minchah*o*" and
"Nisch*o*" - what does he expound from them?
2. Answer: He learn that Menachos and Nesachim may be
brought at night, or the day following the Korban
they accompany.
(h) Objection #2: We cannot learn from the Chatas of a Nazir
to a Chatas for eating Chelev (i.e. a normal Chatas for a
Shogeg (unintentional) transgression (which if Mezid
would be punishable with Kares) or vice-versa!
1. We cannot learn Chatas Chelev from Chatas Nazir,
since other Korbanos accompany Chatas Nazir;
2. We cannot learn Chatas Nazir from Chatas Chelev,
since the latter atones for a transgression of
Kares.
(i) Answer #2 (to Question (a)) - part 1 (Rava): We learn
from the Chatas of a Metzora - "V'Asah ha'Kohen Es
ha'Chatas" - all the Asiyos must be l'Shem Chatas.
(j) Question: This teaches about Shinuy Kodesh - what is the
source for Shinuy Ba'alim?
(k) Answer #2 - part 2: "V'Chiper Al ha'Mitaher" - on this
person that is becoming Tahor, not another.
(l) Objection: We cannot learn from Chatas Metzora to Chatas
Chelev, or vice-versa!
1. We cannot learn Chatas Chelev from Chatas Metzora,
since other Korbanos accompany Chatas Metzora;
2. We cannot learn Chatas Metzora from Chatas Chelev,
since the latter atones for a transgression of
Kares.
(m) Suggestion: We cannot learn from one of these to another
- perhaps one of them can be learned from the other two!
1. Question: Which one could be learned?
2. Answer #1: Chatas Chelev could be learned from the
others.
3. Rejection: We cannot learn it from Chatas Nazir and
Chatas Metzora, since other Korbanos accompany them!
4. Answer #2: Chatas Nazir could be learned from the
others.
5. Rejection: We cannot learn it from the others, one
can exempt himself from it by annulling a vow, this
does not apply to Chatas Chelev or Chatas Metzora.
6. Answer #3: Chatas Metzora could be learned from the
others.
7. Rejection: We cannot learn it from the others, since
a poor person can bring a bird, this does not apply
to Chatas Nazir and Chatas Chelev.
(n) Answer #3: Rather, we learn from "Zos
ha'Torah...(vela'Chatas...ul'Zevach ha'Shelamim)" -
Chatas is equated to Shelamim;
1. Just as Shinuy Kodesh and Shinuy Ba'alim are
forbidden regarding Shelamim, also regarding Chatas;
2. The other verses teach that Lo Lishmah is Pasul
regarding Chatas.
(o) Question: This only teaches about Chatas Chelev, by which
it says "L'Chatas";
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1. What is the source for Chata'os brought for
idolatry, false oaths of not knowing testimony or of
Bituy, or a Tamei person who entered the Mikdash or
ate Kodshim (it does not say l'Chatas in these
Parshiyos)?
(p) Answer: We learn a Chatas for idolatry from Chatas
Chelev, since both are Chayavei Kerisus;
1. The others are learned from a Tzad ha'Shavah of
Chatas Chelev, Chatas Metzora and Chatas Nazir.
3) A PESACH OFFERED AT THE WRONG TIME
(a) (Beraisa): If a Korban Pesach was slaughtered at the
proper time (on Erev Pesach): Lishmah it is (fully)
Kosher, Lo Lishmah it is (fully) Pasul;
1. If it was slaughtered any other time (Tosfos -
before the first Pesach after it was Hukdash),
Lishmah it is Pasul, Lo Lishmah it is Kosher (but he
did not fulfill his obligation).
(b) Question: What is the source of this (latter law)?
(c) Answer (Shmuel's father): "V'Im Min ha'Tzon Korbano
L'Zevach Shelamim" - a Korban that is brought from Tzon
(sheep or goats, i.e. a Pesach) is (at any other time) a
Shelamim.
(d) Suggestion: Perhaps this is only if it is slaughtered
l'Shem Shelamim!
(e) Rejection (R. Ila): "L'Zevach" includes (if it was
slaughtered l'Shem) any Korban.
(f) Suggestion: Perhaps if it was slaughtered l'Shem any
Korban, it becomes that Korban!
(g) Rejection: Had the Torah said 'l'Shelamim v'Zevach', that
would be correct!
1. Rather, it says "L'Zevach Shelamim" to teach that if
it is slaughtered l'Shem any Korban, it is a
Shelamim.
(h) Suggestion: Why don't we say that "L'Zevach" is a Klal
and "Shelamim" is a Prat, from a Klal and Prat we only
learn the Prat, i.e. Shelamim!
(i) Answer #1: "La'Sh-m" is a closing Klal.
(j) Question (R. Yakov of Nehar Pekod): But the opening and
closing Klalim are dissimilar! The opening Klal
(L'Zevach) only includes animals, the closing Klal
(la'Sh-m) teaches all Korbanos to Hash-m, even birds and
flour-offerings!
(k) Answer: The Tana is Tana d'vei R. Yishmael, who expounds
such a Klal Prat u'Klal;
1. From a Klal Prat u'Klal we learn everything similar
to the Prat (Shelamim) - if it was slaughtered
l'Shem any Korban, it is Kosher.
(l) Question: The Prat is a Korban that one brings for a vow
- we should only learn such Korbanos, i.e., Olah and
Shelamim, but not Chatas and Asham!
(m) Answer #2: "L'Zevach" is (Rashi - an extra word,
therefore it is) not a Klal, rather, an inclusion.
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